I DON’T get to decide what the majority wants and I don’t know how you conclude that in what I said. I only observe how elections are decided and the directions those elections take us. So far, those elections have supported the system.

I didn’t mention anyone’s name and I know you don’t know who I am referring to or why.

I don’t give “rumors” any thought at all. But, I do believe there are people who would rather spread rumors and complaints than settle an issue.

Perception is one thing. Reality is another. I can’t change your perceptions on anything. Only you can.

The reality is that I have my reasons for my opinions but, my observations are that a lot of people just want to shut down any view that is different from their own. They are totally insensitive to those who think differently.

You can’t learn anything if you only listen to those who agree with you.

Disclaimer
I’ve met Scott and respect him. I’m just trying to illustrate the fact that there is a perception that the measuring system has major problems and anecdotes keep popping up supporting that view.

You say that everyone in NAFA is happy with measuring. When was the last time you were at a tournament outside of your area? How many areas have you been to tournaments at and been able to talk with people face to face regarding measuring? Internet communication is fine but nothing beats face to face conversations. You might be surprised at what you find out. There must be a problem otherwise why would the BOD change the policy on height cards for a few unhappy people?

I believe that whether a democracy or privately owned you are going to have unhappy people. It is a fact of life that you can’t make everyone happy.

I don’t race against SL, and what would be the point since SL has the CoB and a whole lot of others “on thier side.” Nor, do I care, my point is, there ARE persons out there that do care, are not allowed a certain stance when another team is. It is still happening, maybe you just don’t see it, but I hear about it.

“The reason it looks like I’m playing in some kind of “Flyball Utopia” is that nobody is trying to push the limits of what they can “get away with” when it comes to jump heights. The teams involved in controversy no longer enter NAFA tournaments. They are happy they are doing U-FLI. I’m happy for them. No one enjoyed going to tournaments only to witness the worst in some people’s behaviors”

Then, if no one currently is trying to push the envelop, why is this rule necessary?

I can only guess what team, judge will be next on the chopping block.

I have no problem with the two organizations, happy to have choice.

Back to my misrable, unhappy world.

I didn’t say that to be mean. It’s just a statement of fact. They choose not to participate in NAFA events.

Yes, there are a lotta people who post public inuendo about Spring Loaded’s jump heights. Now, they have a method to challenge them for real. Will they?

And, yes, I recall their failure to get the measurement on their height dog after a world record run. So, all that happened was they DIDN’T get the world record for that. Big Deal. Their jump height was not challenged. It was a verification for a world record. They still kept all their placements and regional points.

If YOU have a problem with the Height Cards that Spring Loaded has on their dogs then plunk your money down and challenge it according to the rules. If you are right and the challenge is upheld, you get your money back and they lose a height card. How much does it matter to you? And, why don’t you care how I am standing my dog or what I am jumping? What’s the difference?

I didn’t hear about how long measuring took in Ontario because I don’t play there anymore. I’m scared for my dogs of the Provincial Government and I won’t risk anything happening to them due to “mis-identification”.

….but, my point is that U-FLI should make you HAPPY and you do not post like a “happy person”. Why aren’t you happy enough to have U-FLI? Why isn’t having all the things you want to do in flyball available to you through U-FLI enough?

There is no point to having two organizations if you are trying to make one like the other. This thread started because the author of this article totally disagrees with the policy the NAFA BoD has adopted to address the issues some people have over Height Cards that were issued prior to the Rules concerning measuring were made more restrictive. The Board struggled with this problem for over three years. If they had not come up with a solution, the people who were pressuring the Board to do something would have been totally disatisfied with that outcome.

The real problem with NAFA is that it is a democracy and in a democracy, there is always a “minority” view. The majority dictates the direction that organization takes and quite often that is opposite of the minority. You can NEVER please everybody in a democracy.

What would be better would be to find a way that both sides could co-exist peacefully. How do we make that happen?

There is still alot of questions about alot of different dogs, you may not have heard about it, but I sure have! Or maybe you didn’t hear about how long measuring took in Ontario a month back?

For the record, I don’t care how you stand your dog, or what you are jumping, I never really pay attention.

Apology accepted.

I don’t think of this as personal at all.

I’m not trying to change anybody’s mind. My purpose to keep people thinking about what they say and keeping everything “logical”.

You are passionate about what you believe and that’s OK.

Like I said, I’m not trying to change ANYBODY’S mind. But, I don’t think some people really listen to the other side. They equate “listening” with agreement.

I’m glad you agree to disagree.

So, now we have persons, if they choose, “policing” measuring. They can make life very difficult if they want to get back at someone, or their old team.?

What is the point?