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		<title>By: Danie</title>
		<link>http://www.flyballblog.com/hosting-a-u-fli-tournament/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Danie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard was the TD for the NAFA tourney and not the RD.  The ED appointed an RD.  Yes, we did have to get the RD to approve, and the RD&#039;s response was a quick as UFLI&#039;s.      Considering that everyone in both organizations does have lives outside of flyball, the responses were pretty quick.  Having an online entry system, preferably with paypal, would be a boon to both groups.  Add on seeding and scheduling program and it&#039;s even better.  

Does anyone happen to know if UFLI uses a program for their scheduling?  Or is it done manually?  At first, I thought it was a program, but when we found that error in the one division where it was an incomplete round robin, I began to think the schedule was done manually.  Either way, it is always a good idea to have another person or persons review it--no matter who is sanctioning your tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard was the TD for the NAFA tourney and not the RD.  The ED appointed an RD.  Yes, we did have to get the RD to approve, and the RD&#8217;s response was a quick as UFLI&#8217;s.      Considering that everyone in both organizations does have lives outside of flyball, the responses were pretty quick.  Having an online entry system, preferably with paypal, would be a boon to both groups.  Add on seeding and scheduling program and it&#8217;s even better.  </p>
<p>Does anyone happen to know if UFLI uses a program for their scheduling?  Or is it done manually?  At first, I thought it was a program, but when we found that error in the one division where it was an incomplete round robin, I began to think the schedule was done manually.  Either way, it is always a good idea to have another person or persons review it&#8211;no matter who is sanctioning your tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I just went out and looked and they only take &quot;some NAFA&quot; tournies right now.  Might be worth checking to see if they&#039;d set up a template for U-fli.

Beth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I just went out and looked and they only take &#8220;some NAFA&#8221; tournies right now.  Might be worth checking to see if they&#8217;d set up a template for U-fli.</p>
<p>Beth</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie said, &quot;U-Fli has helped tournament hosting immensely by tackling the seeding and scheduling. I think the next step would be for them to provide a web site to allow us to enter tournaments and pay via credit card or PayPal. Collecting entries would then be one less thing for the host club to worry about.&quot;

Has anyone checked on Dog Events Online?  We use them for our agility trials and I think I&#039;ve seen them list flyball tournaments.  We&#039;ve had some bumps with them now and then getting our info out there, but usually it works pretty well for us.  I really like how I can print out entries already filled out if I&#039;m entering a trial.

Beth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie said, &#8220;U-Fli has helped tournament hosting immensely by tackling the seeding and scheduling. I think the next step would be for them to provide a web site to allow us to enter tournaments and pay via credit card or PayPal. Collecting entries would then be one less thing for the host club to worry about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Has anyone checked on Dog Events Online?  We use them for our agility trials and I think I&#8217;ve seen them list flyball tournaments.  We&#8217;ve had some bumps with them now and then getting our info out there, but usually it works pretty well for us.  I really like how I can print out entries already filled out if I&#8217;m entering a trial.</p>
<p>Beth</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.flyballblog.com/hosting-a-u-fli-tournament/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dani, 

You CAN NOT be TD (tournament director) and RD (Regional Director) at the same time.  But you can host the tournament and be the RD....you just make someone else on your team TD.  And yes I am familiar with the rules.  

Judy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani, </p>
<p>You CAN NOT be TD (tournament director) and RD (Regional Director) at the same time.  But you can host the tournament and be the RD&#8230;.you just make someone else on your team TD.  And yes I am familiar with the rules.  </p>
<p>Judy</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Gillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy was RD for Reg 3 for YEARS...and a NAFA approved judge and a U-FLI approved judge. 

For whatever it is worth Danie - as much headache as you had - your team did an awesome job!  And we had a blast, despite the heat! :)

Jackie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy was RD for Reg 3 for YEARS&#8230;and a NAFA approved judge and a U-FLI approved judge. </p>
<p>For whatever it is worth Danie &#8211; as much headache as you had &#8211; your team did an awesome job!  And we had a blast, despite the heat! <img src='http://www.flyballblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jackie</p>
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		<title>By: Danie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy said &quot;If so you would have had to reseed send to the RD for approval, then reschedule and resend to the RD (oh but then your husband was the RD so that probably wasn’t that much of a problem).&quot;

Nope.  I guess you are not very familiar the NAFA rules.  You can NOT be an RD for a tournament you are hosting.  The Executive Director appoints a temporary RD when the current RD&#039;s team is hosting a tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy said &#8220;If so you would have had to reseed send to the RD for approval, then reschedule and resend to the RD (oh but then your husband was the RD so that probably wasn’t that much of a problem).&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope.  I guess you are not very familiar the NAFA rules.  You can NOT be an RD for a tournament you are hosting.  The Executive Director appoints a temporary RD when the current RD&#8217;s team is hosting a tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.flyballblog.com/hosting-a-u-fli-tournament/comment-page-1/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danie, 

Most of the problem you had seemed to be because you let the team pull/enter/pull.  I know that you were trying to be a good host but it is hard to redo schedules and seedings when changes keep getting made.  Maybe it was easy when you did the NAFA one but did you have team(s) pull/enter/pull on you then?  If so you would have had to reseed send to the RD for approval, then reschedule and resend to the RD (oh but then your husband was the RD so that probably wasn’t that much of a problem).  We have hosted both NAFA and U-Fli tournaments.  Some of the paperwork is the same but some is different.  But then it is two different organizations that you are dealing with.  I am sure that there is different paperwork required between and AKC event and a UKC event.   

In the long run with the errant team and your large entry (which you didn’t have in the NAFA tournament you hosted, from what I am gathering) things seemed to be somewhat overwhelming to you.  Giving it a second try with maybe limiting your entries or just doing regular racing and taking “day of” singles and pairs if your entries are low might be a better way of handling things.  But then this is JMO.   We will be hosting 2 U-Fli this next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danie, </p>
<p>Most of the problem you had seemed to be because you let the team pull/enter/pull.  I know that you were trying to be a good host but it is hard to redo schedules and seedings when changes keep getting made.  Maybe it was easy when you did the NAFA one but did you have team(s) pull/enter/pull on you then?  If so you would have had to reseed send to the RD for approval, then reschedule and resend to the RD (oh but then your husband was the RD so that probably wasn’t that much of a problem).  We have hosted both NAFA and U-Fli tournaments.  Some of the paperwork is the same but some is different.  But then it is two different organizations that you are dealing with.  I am sure that there is different paperwork required between and AKC event and a UKC event.   </p>
<p>In the long run with the errant team and your large entry (which you didn’t have in the NAFA tournament you hosted, from what I am gathering) things seemed to be somewhat overwhelming to you.  Giving it a second try with maybe limiting your entries or just doing regular racing and taking “day of” singles and pairs if your entries are low might be a better way of handling things.  But then this is JMO.   We will be hosting 2 U-Fli this next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Regular and Standard racing sheets from both organizations look pretty much the same.  Granted, there are some minor differences but if you’ve seen the NAFA sheets a few times figuring out the U-FLI sheets is not a problem.  So, the only thing Danie is saying is that the singles and pairs sheets should somewhat resemble the Regular and Standard sheets to make them less confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Regular and Standard racing sheets from both organizations look pretty much the same.  Granted, there are some minor differences but if you’ve seen the NAFA sheets a few times figuring out the U-FLI sheets is not a problem.  So, the only thing Danie is saying is that the singles and pairs sheets should somewhat resemble the Regular and Standard sheets to make them less confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Danie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth said &quot;Since U-FLI was the first organization to introduce sinlges and pairs racing, how could you make a brand new form look like a normal form since there was never one to begin with? I’ve never seen it look any other way so it seems normal to me.&quot;

I think you misunderstood.  Just use a normal team racing form and modify it.  Have the two races listed one below the other, rather than side by side.  Rather than having 1 to 6 dog numbers to circle, you just have one or two.  Instead of 6 dogs names, breeds, run numbers, just have a place for one or two.  One if you use a separate form for pairs and singles.  List two, and you could use the exact same form for both pairs and singles.  Just check a box for pairs or singles.  You only have to circle the one or two numbers for the dogs racing, and you only have two races in the results scoring area.  The paperwork can be pre-marked to list left or right lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth said &#8220;Since U-FLI was the first organization to introduce sinlges and pairs racing, how could you make a brand new form look like a normal form since there was never one to begin with? I’ve never seen it look any other way so it seems normal to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you misunderstood.  Just use a normal team racing form and modify it.  Have the two races listed one below the other, rather than side by side.  Rather than having 1 to 6 dog numbers to circle, you just have one or two.  Instead of 6 dogs names, breeds, run numbers, just have a place for one or two.  One if you use a separate form for pairs and singles.  List two, and you could use the exact same form for both pairs and singles.  Just check a box for pairs or singles.  You only have to circle the one or two numbers for the dogs racing, and you only have two races in the results scoring area.  The paperwork can be pre-marked to list left or right lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danie said; 
&quot;How many UFLI tournaments do you have to line judge at with those forms until they become familiar though?.......Why not just make them look like a normal form that everyone is familiar with?&quot;

Since U-FLI was the first organization to introduce  sinlges and pairs racing, how could you make a brand new form look like a normal form since there was never one to begin with?  I&#039;ve never seen it look any other way so it seems normal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danie said;<br />
&#8220;How many UFLI tournaments do you have to line judge at with those forms until they become familiar though?&#8230;&#8230;.Why not just make them look like a normal form that everyone is familiar with?&#8221;</p>
<p>Since U-FLI was the first organization to introduce  sinlges and pairs racing, how could you make a brand new form look like a normal form since there was never one to begin with?  I&#8217;ve never seen it look any other way so it seems normal to me.</p>
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