Comments on: Voting Issues http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/ i-Flyball Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:35:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: dittopunk http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-809 dittopunk Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:44:46 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-809 In one of the blogs or the comments, I read where someone refered to the online voting problem that occured when voting for the ED - that even when choosing no one it cast a vote for the one candidate. It was speculated as to whether or not this was a gliche. I think not. I think that if the possiblitiy was available to show the number of votes that did not support this candidate, the vote could have shown a greater support for no one than the person running. While it doesn't matter since even one vote would get him re-elected, seeing the true number of nonsupporters would be a harsh reality to face since it would change nothing. As I stated above - this is what I think! Eli In one of the blogs or the comments, I read where someone refered to the online voting problem that occured when voting for the ED – that even when choosing no one it cast a vote for the one candidate. It was speculated as to whether or not this was a gliche. I think not. I think that if the possiblitiy was available to show the number of votes that did not support this candidate, the vote could have shown a greater support for no one than the person running. While it doesn’t matter since even one vote would get him re-elected, seeing the true number of nonsupporters would be a harsh reality to face since it would change nothing.

As I stated above – this is what I think!

Eli

]]> By: Larry http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-804 Larry Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:37:17 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-804 When voting online, a no vote tells it was intentional. You can even pop up a warning if the voter only selects 1 or 2 candidates. Maybe you should be able to leave a comment also or maybe a write in candidate. I'm just throwing things out there but I do think it's important to know why someone with a ballot didn’t vote and why a ballot was returned incomplete. Was it a mistake or intentional? I know that not voting may just be voter apathy. When voting online, a no vote tells it was intentional. You can even pop up a warning if the voter only selects 1 or 2 candidates. Maybe you should be able to leave a comment also or maybe a write in candidate. I’m just throwing things out there but I do think it’s important to know why someone with a ballot didn’t vote and why a ballot was returned incomplete. Was it a mistake or intentional? I know that not voting may just be voter apathy.

]]> By: Beth http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-803 Beth Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:05:33 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-803 My question with the "no" vote is where does it really get you? Yes, you may send a message to NAFA leadership, but so what? Unless you have more/different folks to run, I don't see where a "no" vote does that much good. Seems we'd be better served to get folks who we feel are after what we feel is the best interest of the sport and the organization to accept a nomination to run. Beth My question with the “no” vote is where does it really get you? Yes, you may send a message to NAFA leadership, but so what? Unless you have more/different folks to run, I don’t see where a “no” vote does that much good. Seems we’d be better served to get folks who we feel are after what we feel is the best interest of the sport and the organization to accept a nomination to run.

Beth

]]> By: Larry http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-801 Larry Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:08:12 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-801 U-FLI is a private business where NAFA is a nonprofit organization. Both are based in democratic values but one entrepreneurial, and you can't get much more American than that. U-FLI is a private business where NAFA is a nonprofit organization. Both are based in democratic values but one entrepreneurial, and you can’t get much more American than that.

]]> By: Russell http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-800 Russell Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:09:19 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-800 On the whole I like the Nafa voting system better than the ufli system... it seems so much more democratic and american... On the whole I like the Nafa voting system better than the ufli system… it seems so much more democratic and american…

]]> By: OldSheba http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-795 OldSheba Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:36:04 +0000 http://www.flyballblog.com/voting-issues/#comment-795 Based on what we know on how votes can be "cast" for someone electronically, and skewed in one favor or another, I think having a paper trail in voting is probably the best route to avoid tampering with the votes. Our National polling recently, for example, has shown that without that paper ballot how can you do an accurate recount. A person could even hold a postion without having actually won. (Imagine that!) Flyball too, as much as we'd like to believe differently, but have seen over and over has it's own politics. It's crappy, but it's there, in all aspects. Within regions,Clubs,teams, and in some clubs like my former, includes politics in line ups and training time. Candidates should be listed. Perhaps adding the modification, " choosing to abstain" on each section to be voted on along with the candidate's names would simplify it. As I've stated previously, I have never seen a ballot. So perhaps this is already on the form. If it isn't currently on a ballot, it would be very simple to add and then you could have some sort of indication that the votes were intentionally not cast, and not out of error or oversite. When our club finally earns the right to vote, I hope we choose to send a paper ballot. But we'll vote on that as a club desiscion too! :) Based on what we know on how votes can be “cast” for someone electronically, and skewed in one favor or another, I think having a paper trail in voting is probably the best route to avoid tampering with the votes.
Our National polling recently, for example, has shown that without that paper ballot how can you do an accurate recount. A person could even hold a postion without having actually won. (Imagine that!)

Flyball too, as much as we’d like to believe differently, but have seen over and over has it’s own politics. It’s crappy, but it’s there, in all aspects. Within regions,Clubs,teams, and in some clubs like my former, includes politics in line ups and training time.

Candidates should be listed. Perhaps adding the modification, ” choosing to abstain” on each section to be voted on along with the candidate’s names would simplify it.

As I’ve stated previously, I have never seen a ballot. So perhaps this is already on the form.

If it isn’t currently on a ballot, it would be very simple to add and then you could have some sort of indication that the votes were intentionally not cast, and not out of error or oversite.

When our club finally earns the right to vote, I hope we choose to send a paper ballot. But we’ll vote on that as a club desiscion too! :)

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